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Lack of proper Credit and Links provided of the original Artist and Resources used is the #1 cause of delays daily in our Group Submission process. When we observe possible uncredited Resources use in a Group submission, we send out a correspondence message to the artist requesting Credit and links, and must often wait for a response.

We have been receiving a lot of submissions which are containing other peoples work without permission, credit and/or links given. Our Group standpoint and Guidelines in regards to this issue are very clear:

:star::bulletred: If you did not make it; get permission to use/alter it from the original artist/company, give credit and provide a link to the piece used. If you do not have permission to use it, then it is Considered Copyright Infringement. No Exceptions

:star::bulletred:You must provide Credit to each creator of the resources used, along with links to every resource used, regardless of where you got the resource. Not just links to the site where you got the resource, but a link to the resources themselves. No Exceptions

If you can not remember, find or provide the original credits and links, then we ask that you do not submit that piece to our Group. This is not just limited site wide to deviantART, this is world wide. Regardless of where your source is from you must provide all credits and links for your work to be submitted into our Group Galleries. This goes for all mediums.

Our staff screen each piece to make sure all artists rights are protected. We as staff communicate with one another and check each piece and their contents, as well as all credits and links. We investigate and research each piece, and are now in the process of doubling our efforts due to the increasing amounts of uncredited stock and/or use of Copyright Protected Material used.

If you see a submission in our group gallery that contains uncredited stock or copyright protected work, contact us via Group note titled "Stock Issue" or "Copyright Issue". Do not contact us leaving a public message on our front page. We will keep all tips confidential and anonymous.

Please refer to our Submission Guidelines for all rules about submissions in our Group: realm-of-fantasy.deviantart.co…
Below is our new revised Credit Guidelines.


:bulletgreen:Credit Guidelines:bulletgreen:


:star::bulletred: If you did not make it; get permission to use/alter it from the original artist/company, give credit and provide a link to the piece used. If you do not have permission to use it, then it is Considered Copyright Infringement. No Exceptions

:star::bulletred: You must provide Credit to each creator of the resources used, along with links to every resource used, regardless of where you got the resource. Not just links to the site where you got the resource, but a link to the resources themselves.

:bulletorange: If you used your own photos, resources our purchased content in your work; please state this in your Artists Comments on your piece. Because if credits are not present, even if you were the creator or the resources are purchased, the submission will get put in review.

:bulletorange: If you use a photo or pre-made background from another artist in your work you must have permission from the original artist who created it. No exceptions.

:bulletorange: If you use a photo or pre-made background from another artist in your work you must give credit and links to the artist and the stock/background used, regardless of which site it came from. No exceptions

:bulletorange: You can not use photos/artwork/wallpapers you found off the internet and use it in your work. That is considered Copyright Infringement. Even if you credit a piece, you still must have permission to use it.

:bulletorange: No screen shots. Examples: Films, Games etc. No Exceptions

:bulletorange: We strongly suggest you follow the Terms of Use of your Stock/Resource Artists. Stock/Resources artists work hard to crate their resources, and are kind enough to share it with you so that you may us them to help create your artwork. So the least you could do is respect their wishes and follow their Terms of Use.

:bulletorange: Fan Art and Fan Fiction must credit the original sources. The title of the Source material and the name of the Character if applicable must be stated in the artists comments.
Examples:

"Spiderman" and all names of characters and the distinctive likeness(es) thereof are Trademarks of Marvel Inc.

"Darth Vader" "Star Wars" and all names and the distinctive likeness(es) thereof are Trademarks of Lucasfilm LTD

All other trademarks and trade names are properties of their respective owners.

(c) Marvel


:bulletred: We will not accept any piece found to contain Copyright Protected artwork from another Artist/Company used in the creation of your submission. If your artwork contains such material the submission will be declined.

:bulletred: If credit and links to each artist and each stock/resource used in the creation of your submission are not provided, the submission will be declined.


:bulletgreen: Purchased material with sole rights to use such material explicitly given by the creator/merchant, with no credit required to be given to the creator of the purchased material as verified by the creators Terms of Use and Purchase License is the only exception to the rule. So if you own it state that in your submission.
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ronniengirls Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Hmm..reading over this 2yr old post, I most certainly agree that each submission should be checked to make sure that the submitter/artist have given proper link/s and credit! What I think should be taken into account in the instances where an older submission with credit link/s is submitted is that, there are instances, like an older submission of mine from 2010 [link], where with time, some of the links now have defaulted to DA's browse art page. I have been under the current impression that the artist and owners no longer had active profiles on DA or had simply elected to either hide or remove their/that piece of their submitted art. I guess now simply removing those broken link/s would make for an easy solution but I have elected to still keep them up for two reasons, one to still give respect to another fellow artist for their inspiration and two, to simply let other creators know that that item was another artists creation. Unfortunately, I had no reason to believe when I first submitted, 'Yearning in Water', that the DA links could/would eventually break but now on hindsight, and I appreciate the respectful nudge from the nice admins of 'Realm of Fantasy' for bringing me back to look at what/which links were now no longer working, I can most certainly look to adding as well, a/the profile name as well in order to make for easier referral of submissions!
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Natanei Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2011  Student Traditional Artist
Jesus, I don't remember where I got brush for my background ;x It was about two years ago when I was downloading brushes to photoshop, while I was drawing at it. Now it is impossible for me to find this site and this brush in milions of it in the Internet ;x
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alltheoriginalnames Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2010
We apologize for the misunderstanding, but this is not where you post your credits and links. This blog is intended only to explain the guidelines. You post the links on your piece, and then respond to the correspondence message that you have done so.
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MirellaSantana Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2010  Professional Digital Artist
wow...
i understand!
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alltheoriginalnames Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2010
Not a problem, it happens ;)
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MirellaSantana Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2010  Professional Digital Artist
i know!
and i always understand!
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AaronMiller Featured By Owner Apr 30, 2010  Professional General Artist
how is it even an option to post someone else's work period? just because i like Alex Ross doesn't give me the right to create an account here and post his work even with a credit. not an option. specifically since DA grants itself rights to the work being uploaded. and right there you have infringed on the creators rights. they did not give DA the permission to those terms on the uploaded image.

it's black and white. and it should actually be brought up to the admins of DA to close those accounts. I would personally pursue that course and get all lawyered up about it too. it's not ok with an image, a song, a movie.

see how fast your account will last if you upload bits of Ironman in the video section, or your favorite Lady Gaga music video.

i hope this gets picked up by admins or already has been and has had action taken.
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alltheoriginalnames Featured By Owner Jul 14, 2010
the only time one can use/alter another artist work is if they get explicit permission from the original artist to do so, and then provides credit and links. We do not condone nor allow any use or alteration of other artists work with out explicit permission given from the original artist.
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vulpinoid Featured By Owner Apr 30, 2010
I try to use only photographs that I have taken myself, pictures that I have drawn myself, or 3D renderings using public domain (or freely accessible) componentry. Despite this, I've had a couple of my images denied by sites such as Elfwood because my pictures obviously contained previously created artwork (even though I had previously created it myself). When I can't quickly access an image I need, I'll often do a quick search through the wikimedia commons for something public domain and suitable.

The vast majority of my working components are on my own computer and a 2 terabyte portable hard drive. I honestly don't think I could find a hosting provider who would be willing to store that much data for me just so I can provide links to it for people who "just want to be safe and avoid accusations of fraud".

I know that in most cases common sense applies, and for the most part we can reasonably trust one another, but I'm totally agreeing with those people who just want to be artists, not accountants or copyright lawyers.
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alltheoriginalnames Featured By Owner Jul 14, 2010
Because of the fact that we have had many such Copyright Infringement situations regarding work posted here, we had to develop Guidelines in order to protect all artists and our Group. These guidelines were made mandatory by the actions of certain individuals who did not have a healthy knowledge of commons sense Copyright Laws, those that did and chose to violate them purposefully, or didn't care either way.

Because in the end we are held accountable for any such Infringements as well since it is posted in our Group.
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FrostDevil Featured By Owner Apr 30, 2010
I swear, I didn't copywright, I submitted a pic of a fairy I had made up several days ago. :)
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sarakristian Featured By Owner Apr 6, 2010
do you know how long it takes for a group to be verified?
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phoenixfyre6967 Featured By Owner Apr 30, 2010
From scratch takes a few days.
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alltheoriginalnames Featured By Owner Apr 6, 2010
Sort of a random question on a completely unrelated journal ;)

If you are referring to converting a club to a Group, it can take a few days to a few weeks depending. If you are making a Group from scratch then I have no idea.
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Tkrain Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
As both a stock artist and a manipulator and renderer, I can appreciate the value of crediting (even wrote an exhaustive tutorial on the best way to do this). My concern is more that the debate itself has gone through a few of the groups here (#iManipulate just had a huge debate over this issue, with changes to their crediting guidelines almost daily for a week or two) and that it's creating real tension in the groups. Rather dismaying to me. My other concern is that several groups now have a situation where the artist in question may have followed every stock artists instructions for crediting to the letter and would still be told that their artwork was illegal because it has been improperly credited (this was the problem over at #iManipulate). I think the responsibility for crediting and enforcement is more a :devart: issue and a stock artist issue than for each individual club to research exhaustively every manipulation or render to make sure that all the crediting was kosher.

I personally take an effort to use the strongest crediting (and notification) methods available (it's just a good idea, and folks really really really really should credit properly). I'm just not sure if it's the various clubs responsibility to enforce. Just my 2 copper.
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alltheoriginalnames Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2010
As a Group in deviantART, we must take some responsibility in the screening process of our submissions. To leave this solely up to deviantART would be passing the buck so to speak, simply leaving deviantART staff to deal with this. Our Guidelines are in addition to deviantART and International Copyright laws. We basically want to make sure that stock and resources are credited if used, and that Copyright material not be used without permission and credit. There is a lot of uncredited stock/resource use, as well as use of other artists material without permission.

All that we ask is that if you did not create an aspect of your piece, that you have permission to use and provide credit and links to the artists and the resource. It is a fairly straight forward guideline. I do personally see it as our responsibility; as an artist and as an owner of this Group. I am more than happy to screen submissions to make sure artists rights are respected, as every little bit counts.

I personally think as an artists, it is all our responsibilities to protect fellow artists rights.
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Giselle-M Featured By Owner Apr 30, 2010  Professional General Artist
When you screen all the deviations that go through this group, do you report to the dA staff the ones that do not comply with copyright laws or do you just reject them?
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alltheoriginalnames Featured By Owner Apr 30, 2010
My personal opinion on that matter is this:

That we screen submissions solely for the purpose to make sure that the work follows the guidelines and meet the criteria to be admitted into the Group. I do not wish for the Group to engage in reporting Members submissions for Copyright issues, as I feel that that would violate the Member/Group trust.

But we do make it known that Copyright Infringement is not tolerated, and we deny/remove any such pieces from the Group. In the case that the work used is comprised of pieces used without permissions from artists that we recognize, especially artists on deviantART, we will contact them to check if the Member has been granted permission by the original artist to use their work. While we may notify the other parties involved, it is their responsibility to report the violation to deviantART. We do not condone Copyright Infringement, and will notify the original artists of the situation whenever possible. But we do not report violations to deviantART itself.

Our focus is to Moderate our Group, not deviantART. And our duty is to inform, rather than intervene.
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tsau-mia Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2010
I have a question, what if I go to say, `jademacalla's site, and see some of the pictures. He does action shots a lot for stock. Say I use parts of those action shots as references for a drawing I make. The character looks nothing like the original stock, just the stock was used as a reference for a knife/gun/clothing/pose/hand motion/etc. Since I sometimes use over 20 references for a picture, do I need to credit all of those? Again, I'm only using it as a loose reference for pose and muscle structure.
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AaronMiller Featured By Owner May 1, 2010  Professional General Artist
since this is the normal working method of most illustrators i wouldn't worry about trying to credit everything under the sun that you used for reference. just stay away from lifting whole compositions, faces and poses. a hand holding something is in no need to digging up a credit. if you really want to get a good idea how to use reference in a fantasy painting check out Dan Dos Santos' video. He will take you through a job step by step.
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tsau-mia Featured By Owner May 2, 2010
I interviewed him for a report once. He's actually rediculously cool. :)
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alltheoriginalnames Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2010
I would then suggest that you at least mention that you used various sources for reference, and site the major ones if so inclined.
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tsau-mia Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2010
good to know, and thank you for the clarification.
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KirstenLane Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2010
What about stocks that are paid for and you've followed all the artists, and the site you brought it from, requirements - is stating the site and posting a link to it enough - because these sites don't even ask that of you if you've purchased the stock and follow their legal guidelines.
What I'm asking is if I've purchased the stock from a site - I always state the sites name and a link to it, is that still enough, because otherwise it might become a long list of credits and believe it or not I actually had someone on another site complaining about my last piece and being quite rude about all my crediting and what a 'headache' it gave them.
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alltheoriginalnames Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2010
What we ask is that if you use another artists work, that you have permission and provide credit and links. We strongly suggest you follow the artists terms of use, whether free or purchased.
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KirstenLane Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2010
And if it's purchased stock and the artists terms of use don't include a direct link to the exact pieces, they would in fact prefer that their original stock, unaltered not to be displayed - can you just put a link to the stock site, I'm talking about places like istockphoto.com etc... the professional stock providing sites.
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Mavrosh Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2010  Professional General Artist
Man, looks like you have had lots of trouble because of all this... I can see why these rules are important... Also I still do not understand why crediting other peoples work is not a normal thing that should happen automatically when using their stuff... sad somehow.
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alltheoriginalnames Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2010
We have not had a lot of trouble with this, it is simply an issue that needs to be addressed before it becomes trouble. Better to be proactive than to be reactive ;)
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ankewehner Featured By Owner Mar 26, 2010  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
If you use your own photos in the creation of your piece, you must provide a link so that we can verify that it is your own work. No exceptions

This makes no sense to me.

I might well decide to draw an image based on a photo I took when the photo is not good enough to upload anywhere, or I might even use some of the thousands of photos that don't stand on their own well to create a photomanipulation.

Do you really want to require people who use their own basis material to upload all their raw photos and link to them before they are allowed to submit it to the group?
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alltheoriginalnames Featured By Owner Mar 27, 2010
I will most likely change the wording and rework that aspect of the guidelines, as I realize that I may not have conveyed exactly what I meant. And the end result of that aspect of the guidelines does appear to be somewhat over-compensating for some issues we have been encountering. Something got lost in translation somewhere between thought to keyboard :typerhappy:

"We will work with artists in regards to proving that the work used is in fact of their own work. We are reasonable people and will approach this on a piece by piece basis depending on the circumstances. Pieces will not be instantly declined if you claim all photos used as resources are yours but did not supply credits and links. But we will check to make sure.

What we are trying to avoid is people finding a loop hole and claiming that resources used are their own in order to to be absolved of the responsibility of providing credits and links for resources that may or may not in fact be theirs. Their are people out that that do this, and these situations have already been encountered here. So we are not out to accuse people of fraud, but rather are making sure that all artists rights are protected.

The last thing anyone wants is to see their hard work altered and used by another individual without permission or credit, and then claim that that work is in fact their own."
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ankewehner Featured By Owner Mar 28, 2010  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Yeah, that sounds a bit different from "must be linked, no exceptions".
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alltheoriginalnames Featured By Owner Mar 28, 2010
It was a long blog with a ton of information to go over, and a lot of copy/pasting lol ;)

Sometimes things get lost in translation :typerhappy:
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phoenixleo Featured By Owner Mar 26, 2010
and brushes must be credited too.I am for it, :nod:
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phoenixleo Featured By Owner Mar 26, 2010
credit if not yours, and ask permissioon :nod:

But most of the users who very well know this, and actually use their own stocks, only say that they used their own resources, and do not provide links to that :shrug:
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AinuLaire Featured By Owner Mar 24, 2010
The credit for fan art doesn't have to be nearly as formal as you presented it, I would hope? If people think Luke Skywalker may actually belong to you, they're morons. XD Would not simply mentioning where the character comes from be suitable? Because for Tolkien characters as interpreted by film, I would technically have to list New Line Cinema (or now Warner Bros), Zaentz Corporation, and possibly the Tolkien Estate. Would not "this character is from this book/this film/this manga (or inspired by it)" be acceptable? It is obvious we are not taking credit for the character.

Absolutely agree about stock art use- I reference all stock art I use for *drawings*, not even photo manips.
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alltheoriginalnames Featured By Owner Mar 25, 2010
As I had commented to ~ECCB:

"What we are asking is that artists credit the source when submitting Fan Art to our Group Galleries. The examples we provided of crediting sources of Fan Art were simply examples. We do not require exact word for word credit of sources compared to our examples for Fan Art to be accepted to our Group Galleries, but rather that it is made clear that it is Fan Art based off of the credited source.

There are some people that may not realize that some work is Fan Art based, and content may not be recognizable to all people as such. What may be common knowledge to some may not be to others."
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ECCB Featured By Owner Mar 24, 2010  Student Digital Artist
It isn't illegal to draw fan-art, what's illegal is to claim the already existing character/concept as yours.
So if you put it in the right category when submitting (Fan Art category), it's allright.


I don't see necessary to credit Lucas Arts when drawing a Obi-wan Kenobi. It's common knowledge that Obi-wan concept was created by Goerge Lucas for Star Wars. I don't think it's correct to decline art-works that doesn't mention LucasArts LTD :S
What I do promote, is to credit unkown artists works. For example, if I draw a character created by a fellow deviant, besides of puting it in the right fan-art category, I'd gladly mention him/her and give a link to his/her gallery.
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alltheoriginalnames Featured By Owner Mar 24, 2010
What we are asking is that artists credit the source when submitting Fan Art to our Group Galleries. The examples we provided of crediting sources of Fan Art were simply examples. We do not require exact word for word credit of sources compared to our examples for Fan Art to be accepted to our Group Galleries, but rather that it is made clear that it is Fan Art based off of the credited source.

There are some people that may not realize that some work is Fan Art based, and content may not be recognizable to all people as such. What may be common knowledge to some may not be to others.
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ECCB Featured By Owner Mar 25, 2010  Student Digital Artist
That's also true. Thanks for answering and for your time!

Keep up the good work!
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Dont-lose-heart Featured By Owner Mar 24, 2010
no no it is technically illegal to draw fan art without the permission of the company who owns the rights of the character that was drawn.

the way copyrights work is that fan art is considered a derivative work of the original intellectual property that was copyrighted. so, because fan art doesn't fall under fair use laws, it is actually illegal to create it without getting permission to create said derivative work.
likewise, since the fan art is a derivative work the copyright of the fan art also defaults back to the owner of the copyright of the original intellectual property that spawned the fan art.

the companies that own the copyrights allow fan art because they'd be crazy to alienate fans by suing and keeping them from showing their love of the characters. they'd likely lose a lot of fans and technically free promotion that way.

so while it isn't legally required to credit the creators of a character in a fan art it is technically illegal to create the fan art itself unless you got permission from the creators.
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Transbot9 Featured By Owner Apr 30, 2010  Professional Digital Artist
Technically, in the US it is trademark law under "derivitive works," not copyright law. If I draw a picture of Spiderman, I legally own the copyright to that particular drawing of Spiderman. However, Marvel owns the trademark, so they have a legal right to order me to cease and desist whatever it is I'm doing that they don't like. Marvel does not suddenly own the drawing I made. One reason why companies don't mine fans for ideas (besides most fan ideas being not very good), is that if a fan-creation is used, the fan must sign a legal agreement and the company may have to pay said fan for the copyright.

I received that information at one point from a US government website, but it has been a while and I'm having trouble finding the source.
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ECCB Featured By Owner Mar 24, 2010  Student Digital Artist
Oh, allright. Thanks for the info. It's a very delicated topic, I've been reading a lot about it and still don't get it 100%.
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Dont-lose-heart Featured By Owner Mar 24, 2010
yea copyright is a real pain sometimes but then so is most legal stuff.
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Dendory Featured By Owner Mar 24, 2010   Digital Artist
It's almost ironic how what you listed as 'rules' and even 'laws' are actually so far away from what the law actually says. For a start, the very concept of 'crediting' is not a matter of law at all. It's something that's been tradition in various mediums, that's all. The law is pretty simple, from what I understand of it:

- If someone else made it, and did not specify anything, you cannot use it, period.

- If someone else made it, and you try to modify it to make 'derivative works', that is also illegal, unless it fits into 'fair use', which usually includes very small parts of the original, for very specific reasons such as satire or news reporting.

- If someone made a character, and you want to make fan works of it, guess what it's also illegal, again unless it falls into 'fair use'. The only reason that it's widely done and typically accepted in the US is because original creators usually tolerate them, but there are well publicized cases where they did not.

- If someone makes something and specifically says in its license or sale that it's ok to use this item to make new works, or to use it in derivative works, then it's fine. You can do it, and that's the end of it. This is what the license says for the vast majority of tools such as Photoshop brushes, filters, 3D models sold at DAZ or Renderosity, etc.

Note that *nowhere* does it say anything about crediting, linking, providing source, etc. The only case where you have to do it by law is if the license specifically says you need to do it.

Anyways as a personal opinion, yes I'm very much against art theft, and yes I think people using works of other people *who did not agree to it* is wrong, but this whole crediting business I've been seeing lately has gotten out of hands.
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Art-of-DarkElegance Featured By Owner Jul 14, 2010  Professional General Artist
- If someone makes something and specifically says in its license or sale that it's ok to use this item to make new works, or to use it in derivative works, then it's fine. You can do it, and that's the end of it. This is what the license says for the vast majority of tools such as Photoshop brushes, filters, 3D models sold at DAZ or Renderosity, etc.



actually that is wrong. an artist can at any time, revoke a license they give for material. also it depends on what the artist has listed, some material is ok to use for non-commercial only, others for any use.
if you go to ShareCG you will see some items are ONLY for non-commercial work or other restrictions.

And fair use doesnt quite mean what you apparently think it means.



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