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Fantasy Criteria...

Fri Feb 4, 2011, 11:56 AM by ^alltheoriginalnames:iconalltheoriginalnames:
NOTICE:

This Blog is not intended for any debates, disputes or standpoints regarding the definition of Fantasy or Sci-fi, or Group Policies. Any such comments will be hidden. This Blog is intended only to establish and present our Group Criteria. If you have any questions regarding this blog or any information within do not comment here, rather please send a note to the Group.
Discussions are welcome, debates are not.

Also consider the words Fantasy and Sci-fi interchangeable during the course of this blog for the purpose of saving time.



PLEASE READ THOROUGHLY



Hello everyone,

I just wanted to take a few minutes and talk about Fantasy. Merriam-Webster's Dictionary describes Fantasy as: the free play of creative imagination. It is described as being Mental images or imaginary narratives that distort or entirely depart from reality.

Fantasy is a genre that uses magic and other supernatural forms as a primary element of plot, theme, and/or setting. Many works within the genre take place on fictional planes or planets where magic is common. Fantasy is generally distinguished from science fiction and horror by the expectation that it steers clear of scientific and macabre themes, respectively, though there is a great deal of overlap between the three (which are subgenres of speculative fiction).

In popular culture, the genre of fantasy is dominated by its medievalist form, especially since the worldwide success of The Lord of the Rings by J. R. R. Tolkien. In its broadest sense however, fantasy comprises works by many writers, artists, filmmakers, and musicians, from ancient myths and legends to many recent works embraced by a wide audience today.

Myth and legend, magic and supernatural, sword and sorcery. Fantasy, Modern Fantasy and all subgenres. This is what most people recognize as Fantasy.


Which leads us to the Group Submissions...

What we are looking for is instantly noticeable Fantasy or Sci-fi related material. What we are trying to avoid is for a piece that needs be explained as Fantasy by the submissions title or artists comments. Some people may not catch subtle nuances; and simply see perceive a piece with less than discernible fantasy characteristics. We want the Fantasy Art and Lit to be instantly recognizable to everyone as Fantasy. We do not want people to have to search for some kind of clue that it may be Fantasy related.

Many different things can be considered Fantasy. We understand that something may be Fantasy to one person, and not so much to another. And that the definition of Fantasy can encompass a variety of points of view. We do not wish to dispute that. But for our Group we want to focus on more noticeable and obvious Fantasy, so that we can appeal to Fantasy enthusiasts and casual viewers alike.

What we ask is that the work that is to be presented here is instantly recognizable as it's genre to the general public. We are not an Elitist Group, nor do we only cater to a specific sub-genre of Fantasy. But we do receive a large amount of submissions that may not be instantly recognizable Fantasy related, work that is more interpretive, and work that may need to be explained. And unfortunately we have to decline some submissions due to not meeting our Noticeable Fantasy Criteria. We do not like turning away artwork at all, but we are a genre based Group and need to make sure that all material falls into that genre category.

So please post recognizable Fantasy work only. Do not post work that you have to explain, or think might not pass. We accept all skill levels, from beginners to professional artists, but make sure it is noticeable Fantasy. We all work hard to keep this Group going and present your work for all to see, as well as introduce you to other artists and works. So if you could take care of what you submit that would help us very much. Really take a honest look at your submission, and evaluate objectively if it is in fact recognizable as Fantasy.

For more details please read the Submission Guidelines: [link]

Thank you for your time :)


This Journal will be updated and re-posted from time to time.

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:icongraphicsoul:
*GRAPHICSOUL Apr 5, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
One question, I don't see any photomanipulation, only paintings. So my question is, is there any photomanipulation features? I see you accepting them but i cant see any in gallery with such works?
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:iconbradlyvancamp:
~bradlyvancamp Sep 10, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Will artwork depicting castles, knights and warriors be accepted as fantasy? While these exist in fantasy works such as Tolkien they also exist in real-life history.
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:iconakmaios:
How could a character from D&D/DSA not be Fantasy? Sorry, i can't understand. Next time i will submit a flying bard with demonic parents...
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:iconmatsudarias:
=Matsudarias Jun 16, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Does 'Counting their history of the character' count as trying to portray it's fantasy. My art has the history of each character. Would this be disqualified and declined from your definition?
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:iconfear-is-spreading:
~fear-is-spreading Jun 1, 2012  Professional General Artist
So... revealing female armor, dragons in every corner, and everyone has to have wings or magical energy flowing from every orifice.

Got it.
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:iconalltheoriginalnames:
Sensing a bit of sarcasm.

No, that is not what is explained in the above blog at all.
I would strongly suggest reading the blog again in it's entirety with an open mind.
If you do so you may find that your original misinterpretation is a bit off the mark.
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:iconwitch1978:
As it Currently is, it make historic/medieval fantasy submissions - written or painted - a gamble with no clear visible guideline or understandable procedure, resulting in randomly accepts/declines of same themed images depending on how the Dice of the Moderator rolls that time.

I suggest for clarity you take on the guidelines some sample examples you have decliend and explain in a few words (and not the soulless standard reply) why they were declined, and on the other hand take also some you have accepted even if they have no direct fantasy in it (Joan of Arc, Gothic Dresses, Random Knights or People in Costumes).

I sometimes submit artwork done by others for one of my Projects, a short story about a medieval peasant girl.

The Story was declined with the standard reply "not fantasy" (but historic fantasy, after that complain and the question why there is an art folder for historic fantasy, but no literature there was only silence) ... some images based on scenes of that story were suprisingly accepted, while others were declined ...

And I also suggest instead of declining you give the submitter a day to withdrawn, as a decline would cause a 7 days delay to the next try, while after a withdraw a new image can be submitted. I think I am not the only one who is frustrated by this ...
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:iconalltheoriginalnames:
We take great care to process each submission objectively without bias.
Every Submission is screened by multiple Group Moderators during processing.
Group Moderators converse with one another about every decision made. We reserve the right to decline or remove submissions at any time. If declined, we will provide a reason to you. This decline message will be somewhat vague. In order to receive a more in-depth analysis and evaluation of your work and why it was decline simply reply to the decline message and ask. For various reasons we do not offer constructive critique on a declined submission unless requested.
We receive over 200 submissions a day, so various cover letters may be used regarding initial decline messages. This helps us save time when responding to various reoccurring submission issues.
This is also why we do not give a grace period before declining, as that may result in submissions stuck in limbo qued in a submission backlog.

We also feel that the Fantasy Criteria explained in this blog does give our members a general idea that we are looking for a good amount of visibly noticeable fantasy or sci-fi elements in order for submissions to be accepted.
There are some exceptions to the rule though...
our Fan Art Folders and our Historic Fantasy Folder for example.
A portrait of Luke Skywalker or Gandalf may not initially look sci-fi or fantasy, but these are well known characters so we make some concessions regarding this area.
Also or Historic Fantasy Folder features characters and scenes that could fit on both historic and Fantasy settings. Such as knights, castles, pirates, ninjas etc.

But you did make a good point, and it regards literature. What do we do when it is a literature submission? We do not have a Fan Fiction or Historic Fantasy Literature section. So what happens if there are not enough noticeable elements then? Or what if the story in general is very noticeably fantasy, but one chapter does not seem as such due to the circumstances and setting of the story and the characters at that particular time?
So what do we do?

We need to reevaluate our literature sections and submission processing procedures in this regards.
There is a loop whole regarding noticeable fantasy in Fan Art and Historic Fantasy for visual arts, but not for literature. I will take a look at our Literature section, reevaluate our options and make some adjustments.

We do apologize for any confusion or inconvenience, as neither was our intention.
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:iconvyctorian:
~Vyctorian Apr 24, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Is this only open to tradition fantasy (medieval/European) or do you allow works which draw more from the super natural and mythology-fantasy of other cultures as well?
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:iconkharkarus:
!Kharkarus Mar 24, 2012  Student General Artist
I feel obligated to say this:
You say ''What we are trying to avoid is for a piece that needs be explained as Fantasy by the submissions title or artists comments''. This basically implies that we should only use magical lights, unicorns and castles in the sky? Every group has its own rules, I do agree with that, but with this criteria, the group will become just a neon sign, and Realm of Fantasy is not that, or at least doesn't pretend to be that. I don't know if the group has taken the decision for the reasons explained here or another ones. Anyway, is a sad fate that I believe will ruin it a lot.
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